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| Subject: | CA Rep: If you have a large tumor, you shouldn't get healthcare |
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| Date: | Wed, 11-Jul-2012 6:38:59 AM PDT |
| Where: | SoapZone Community: Politics Message Board |
"While I don't think that someone who is diagnosed with a massive tumor should the next day be able to have millions and millions and millions of dollars of health care provided, I do believe there can be a structure to deal with the issue of pre-existing conditions," Dreier said.
President Barack Obama's Affordable Care Act, which was recently upheld by the United States Supreme Court, contains a provision banning discrimination for pre-existing conditions. Beginning on Jan. 1, 2014, insurers will not be allowed to reject people with pre-existing conditions or charge them higher rates.
Dreier's suggestion? Instead of insurance, patients should enter a high-risk insurance pool, which provides coverage to people who were rejected by insurance companies. "My state of California has a structure in place to deal with pre-existing conditions," he said. "It's a pooling process which I think is one that is worthy of consideration."
Thirty-five states now have high-risk pools, covering about 208,000 people. Those policies are open to individuals with pre-existing health issues but often come with high premiums, waiting periods and coverage exclusions for certain conditions.
The Affordable Care Act included a new federal high-risk pool (modeled on the state plans) called the Pre-Existing Condition Insurance Plan. So far, only 67,000 Americans have enrolled. The program will be phased out in 2014 when the law's broader provisions kick in.
Following the Supreme Court decision to uphold Obama's signature health care law, Dreier vowed to continue the fight to kill it. "We must redouble our efforts to repeal and replace this law with patient-centered reforms that will reduce costs and help the American people meet their healthcare needs," he said in a statement.
Dreier, who is Chairman of the House Rules Committee, announced in February he is retiring after serving in the House since since 1981.
So basically, if you're diagnosed with a massive tumor, just go shoot yourself because your life isn't worth a damn.
Good to know.
ASS.
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And the title of your post is misleading, he just said he shouldnt get - Lin33 - 11-Jul-2012 11:59 AM
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It is kinda the title of the original article, but it is misleading - NJIndian - 11-Jul-2012 7:36 PM
- It's funny that he's all rah rah CA High Risk Pool. - Ninotchka - 11-Jul-2012 8:09 PM
- That's why ACA has the individual mandate.... - Justathot - 11-Jul-2012 5:38 PM
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It is kinda the title of the original article, but it is misleading - NJIndian - 11-Jul-2012 7:36 PM
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That guy is an ass. Why shouldn't someone with a tumor get medical - Paj_Staying4Becky - 11-Jul-2012 10:53 AM
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Hes saying he shouldnt be able to go purchase insurance after finding - Lin33 - 11-Jul-2012 11:53 AM
- So basically he wants to repeal a bill that encourages people - Paj_Staying4Becky - 11-Jul-2012 7:10 PM
- Is he saying it shouldn't be free (most here agree with that)... - Ninotchka - 11-Jul-2012 5:47 PM
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Hes saying he shouldnt be able to go purchase insurance after finding - Lin33 - 11-Jul-2012 11:53 AM
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Re: I'm a "have" my company provides great health insurance .... - kll - 11-Jul-2012 10:24 AM
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Same here. EOM - Ninotchka - 11-Jul-2012 10:32 AM
- +1 EOM - LM - 11-Jul-2012 10:34 AM
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Same here. EOM - Ninotchka - 11-Jul-2012 10:32 AM
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If he had a big tumor, I'm sure he would change his tune. - Erica24 - 11-Jul-2012 9:22 AM
- This is the "pro-life" party...as long as you're healthy or in utero. EOM - Justathot - 11-Jul-2012 5:33 PM
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He wouldn't, since he gets government healthcare. On our tax dime. - Ninotchka - 11-Jul-2012 9:40 AM
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Exactly. I really think that every single member of congress - Emma - 11-Jul-2012 10:21 AM
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Well, the good news is that in 2014, they have to join the exchanges. - Ninotchka - 11-Jul-2012 10:22 AM
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Not how I understood it... - Justathot - 11-Jul-2012 5:34 PM
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Congress and their staff have to join an exchange. EOM - VaritekMyBabyDaddy - 11-Jul-2012 5:41 PM
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I doublechecked. THis is true. - Ninotchka - 11-Jul-2012 5:44 PM
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Had this debate the other night with one of my brother's moron Rethug friends.:D EOM - VaritekMyBabyDaddy - 11-Jul-2012 5:47 PM
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What was his/her response to that? EOM - Ninotchka - 11-Jul-2012 5:48 PM
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He's sticking with what Hannity said. Loser. - VaritekMyBabyDaddy - 11-Jul-2012 6:02 PM
- Oh, for the love. Did you see today that it came out that - Ninotchka - 11-Jul-2012 6:13 PM
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He's sticking with what Hannity said. Loser. - VaritekMyBabyDaddy - 11-Jul-2012 6:02 PM
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What was his/her response to that? EOM - Ninotchka - 11-Jul-2012 5:48 PM
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Had this debate the other night with one of my brother's moron Rethug friends.:D EOM - VaritekMyBabyDaddy - 11-Jul-2012 5:47 PM
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I doublechecked. THis is true. - Ninotchka - 11-Jul-2012 5:44 PM
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Congress and their staff have to join an exchange. EOM - VaritekMyBabyDaddy - 11-Jul-2012 5:41 PM
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Not how I understood it... - Justathot - 11-Jul-2012 5:34 PM
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Well, the good news is that in 2014, they have to join the exchanges. - Ninotchka - 11-Jul-2012 10:22 AM
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Exactly. I really think that every single member of congress - Emma - 11-Jul-2012 10:21 AM
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But isnt that kinda like purchasing car insurance after youve totaled it - Lin33 - 11-Jul-2012 8:05 AM
- It's the same thing. That's why the insurance model is a bad model for health - carolann - 11-Jul-2012 9:38 AM
- These plans are far from free. They are still very expensive, and many can't - Ninotchka - 11-Jul-2012 9:24 AM
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Yes but we have a law in this country called EMTALA - Binky - 11-Jul-2012 8:45 AM
- EMTALA just requires that hospitals STABILIZE the person... - Justathot - 11-Jul-2012 5:31 PM
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Did you seriously compare a HUMAN LIFE to a CAR????? - DibsOnAidanTurner - 11-Jul-2012 8:14 AM
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Did you just blow a fuse? And no, I compared an insurance industry to another. - Lin33 - 11-Jul-2012 11:51 AM
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The insurance industry instead makes billions while trying to offer as few - Cassandra - 11-Jul-2012 12:14 PM
- I do not know what their profits are, I do know that they have the right - Lin33 - 11-Jul-2012 2:32 PM
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The insurance industry instead makes billions while trying to offer as few - Cassandra - 11-Jul-2012 12:14 PM
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The insurance model is the same thing. That's why it doesn't work for - carolann - 11-Jul-2012 9:45 AM
- Insurance was like that at the time becuase the cost of HC - Ninotchka - 11-Jul-2012 5:35 PM
- But then almost no one could afford catastrophic care. EOM - Lin33 - 11-Jul-2012 12:02 PM
- Single payer would be my preference as well, but this country will - Emma - 11-Jul-2012 10:21 AM
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Cant say I'm surprise - SalsaFan - 11-Jul-2012 9:38 AM
- Yet the principals are the same. EOM - Lin33 - 11-Jul-2012 12:00 PM
- LMAO!!!!! Good one!!!! EOM - DibsOnAidanTurner - 11-Jul-2012 10:01 AM
- Lol! EOM - Ninotchka - 11-Jul-2012 9:57 AM
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Of course it's the same. I'm sure that person deliberately - MontanaKC - 11-Jul-2012 9:28 AM
- Sometimes the deliberate lack of common - Lin33 - 11-Jul-2012 11:55 AM
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Did you just blow a fuse? And no, I compared an insurance industry to another. - Lin33 - 11-Jul-2012 11:51 AM
- No worries, he's retiring because he was gonna lose the next election due to - LM - 11-Jul-2012 7:17 AM