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Lem was....(Spoiler talk for The Shield and SOA). spoiler

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Date: Thu, 06-Nov-2025 8:33:11 AM PST
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In topic: 📺 Week of Nov 3rd TV Post 📺 posted by Leia
In reply to: Yeah, I often felt for Shane too. WG was that good. So was the writing. posted by AmberRedux
Lem was my absolute favorite of that show. I adored him and he really was the best person among them (with the exception of Claudette). And Lem was the most innocent of that bunch so, naturally, he paid the ultimate price in a world like that. I was devastated for him and was crying for him when then somewhere in the scene I realized I was crying for Shane, too.

I remember Kenny Johnson said, in between takes, he was really laying it on thick to Walton being like "I'm going to miss this so much. I loved working with you. I'm gonna miss you" so when they started filming, all of Goggins' emotions and tears were real. And they are good friends in real life, too.

Oh, I totally agree on Kurt Sutter being clueless on how to write women. He nails male characters but his female ones SUCK.

Also, Shawn Ryan wrote a better ending for Vic in "The Shield" than Sutter did for Gemma in "Sons" because Ryan understood that death is not the ultimate punishment. Death would've been letting Vic off too easy. No, he now has to live with everything he did, live with knowing he's lost his kids forever, live with all the blood on his hands, knowing that everyone knows what a POS he is and that everyone who once respected him now knows what he did and hates his guts.

Gemma should've gotten the same ending, IMO, only she should have went to prison. That would've been the worst thing for her -- knowing her son died hating her, that she will never see her grandkids again and that they also know she killed their mom, that the club has turned on her forever and she has to survive in prison on her own. That should've been her ending, IMO. Death was too kind for her.


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