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Legally speaking, I'd say that it does matter...

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Date: Fri, 12-Jul-2024 7:07:53 PM PDT
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In topic: Thursday-**Friday~**Weekend Chat Post posted by Leia
In reply to: IMO, it doesn't matter... posted by Wahoo
An actor is told the risks and mitigations of an act so they can fully throw themselves (sometimes literally) into the role. Would your average actor have pointed the "safe" weapon and completed the firing process during the rehearsal? That fact that the weapon wasn't safe when he was told it was, was not his fault.

No, it was not. The fact that he didn't double-check is, especially since he was also the producer. I'd also heard, and this might be totally unsubstantiated rumor, that in the interest of "authenticity", AB wanted "real" guns that fired something as close to real bullets as possible. If that's true, that would be on him as a producer.

He was in the role. He is an actor at that point, not the executive producer. That part was already handled before the rehearsal. Actors accept that the drink they're going to have is going to be tea as a substitute for brandy...and are shocked, often to the point of having to reshoot the scene, if it's really brandy. If the actor thought it was tea and slammed it back, they might gagged and sputtered because the brandy burned. Was the actor supposed to check the drink? No, they knew what was going to be in the glass. Same with the weapon.

As the producer, he hired someone to do a job according to standard. It's like if I, a car owner, hired someone to fix my brakes. When I hit the brakes, I expect the car to slow down or stop. I do not expect it to speed up. If I hit someone with my car while slamming on my brakes, I expect the brake fixer to be held liable, especially if I show the court my receipt for the repairs the brake person did. Alec Baldwin is shielded, to a degree, because he hired a licensed armorer to prepare the weapon and let him know that it was "safe."

I disagree. *He* ultimately was responsible for hiring the licensed armorer he "thought" was safe. IIRC, it was only her second time on a movie set and while yes, you need to actually work to gain experience, he could've hired someone with more experience or hired someone to double-check her work.

Every armorer starts off with their first few jobs. The armorer was hired to do a job and was qualified to do it. He hires specialists, with certifications, because he doesn't have the skills to do the tasks himself or he can't be everywhere a once.

IIRC, you were in the military, yes? Weren't people higher up the ranks held responsible for the actions of the people under their command? I can *maybe* see AB not being considered guilty as the actor who pulled the trigger (though see my previous post about how many people were held accountable in the case of the death of Grayson Yoe) but at the very least, he should shoulder some of the responsibility of what went down due to his position of authority over the armorer, etc.

If that were true, only commanders would be in Leavenworth. When a commander says that someone is responsible for something, that person has the authority to do it and is judged based on how well they did it and if they did it according to expectations/regulations. I have higher expectations of my armorer than my average Soldier. I also expect my armorer to make an on-the-spot correction if I'm doing something dangerous, unsafe, or against regulations regarding the weapon. If I go against the armorer's guidance and something bad happens, that's on me. In this case, Alec Baldwin followed the armorer's guidance/expertise and something tragic happened.

I've also heard--possibly unsubstantiated--rumors that a number of other people on the set of Rust felt unsafe. Again, I cannot verify that.

Feeling unsafe isn't a chargeable offense.

The prosecution not giving him evidence that might have raised doubts about their case was just...not a thing to be done.

This IA on 100%. SHE should face some kind of penalty, maybe even disbarment.

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