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Subject: | I have a LOT of feelings about this whole debacle... |
From: | Wahoo |
Date: | Fri, 12-Jul-2024 5:17:21 PM PDT |
Where: | SoapZone Community Message Board |
In topic: | Thursday-**Friday~**Weekend Chat Post posted by Leia |
In reply to: | Case against Alec Baldwin dismissed WITH PREJUDICE posted by Justathot |
Second...the judge here did her job and did it well. Kudos to her. The state/prosecutor did not. Shame on them.
That being said...though it may not be the case, it absolutely feels to me like AB is going to avoid jail time because of his celebrity. I don't care what he claims...he shot her. Dad is familiar with the type of gun used and it doesn't shoot itself. Whether AB meant to pull the trigger can be debated. The armorer is *definitely* at fault for handing AB a weapon with a live round, and she has been punished accordingly. BUT...AB was the producer on this film, and as such, the responsibility of maintaining a safe set falls on him. And actor or not, he should've double-checked that the gun in his hand was not loaded, and he definitely shouldn't have been aiming it anywhere near a person. You can use angles to fake shooting AT a person.
A lot of comments after that YT video boils down to one of two statements (and sometimes both): "AB is innocent and should never have been charged" and "It was a tragic accident. Accidents happen". If it truly was an unpreventable accident, then yes, he shouldn't have been charged. But was it truly preventable?
The case reminds me of one that happened in 2003 in a county next to mine. An 8 year old boy was electrocuted at a county fair while riding the dodge 'ems. He unfortunately did not survive. Ultimately it was discovered that the ride hadn't been grounded properly. Five different people were found guilty in his "tragic accident": the electrician (an 80 year old man who'd worked at the fair as an electrician for over 40 years...and had never been licensed), two state ride inspectors, the ride operator and the ride owner. If all those people--some of whom served jail time (I don't recall this many years later which ones other than the electrician)--could be found guilty in the death of Greyson Yoe, how can AB be innocent of any criminal charges when he both pulled the trigger and was in charge of the overall safety on the set?
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I don't know that he would have done jail time anyway. - K_StillNotOver2016 - 12-Jul-2024 8:06 PM
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Oh, it's definitely a whole lot of messiness... - Wahoo - 13-Jul-2024 4:33 PM
- The fact that they hid evidence very much suggests to me that - Dreamylyfe - 15-Jul-2024 9:41 AM
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Oh, it's definitely a whole lot of messiness... - Wahoo - 13-Jul-2024 4:33 PM
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First, if he were just another actor, not the producer/executive producer... - Justathot - 12-Jul-2024 6:19 PM
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IMO, it doesn't matter... - Wahoo - 12-Jul-2024 6:34 PM
- If the actor opens the gun to check then it can be considered compromised. - Dreamylyfe - 15-Jul-2024 9:27 AM
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If the prosecution could show it was his decision, they wouldn't have hid them. - K_StillNotOver2016 - 12-Jul-2024 7:41 PM
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I still think using a relatively unproven armorer should be cause for - Wahoo - 12-Jul-2024 7:59 PM
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But AB wasn't in charge of the ammo or even hiring the armorer. - K_StillNotOver2016 - 12-Jul-2024 11:58 PM
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Ah, I didn't know he was just one of many producers. Is there one - Wahoo - 13-Jul-2024 4:28 PM
- Most films have many producers and executive producers. “Producer” can - Kitchop - 14-Jul-2024 11:26 AM
- Often "producer" is almost a courtesy title... - Justathot - 13-Jul-2024 8:58 PM
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Ah, I didn't know he was just one of many producers. Is there one - Wahoo - 13-Jul-2024 4:28 PM
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But AB wasn't in charge of the ammo or even hiring the armorer. - K_StillNotOver2016 - 12-Jul-2024 11:58 PM
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I still think using a relatively unproven armorer should be cause for - Wahoo - 12-Jul-2024 7:59 PM
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Legally speaking, I'd say that it does matter... - Justathot - 12-Jul-2024 7:07 PM
- I guess I'm just less trusting than the average actor then... - Wahoo - 12-Jul-2024 7:51 PM
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IMO, it doesn't matter... - Wahoo - 12-Jul-2024 6:34 PM